Talk:Celtic Europe

Galicia and Asturias

Why have these two autonomous communities of Spain been included in Celtic Europe? Even though their heritage is Celtic (arguably), linguistically they are part of Latin Europe, and their culture is also hardly "predominantly Celtic" anymore. I mean, Celtic heritage has influenced much of Western and Central Europe through history, but both Asturias and Galicia are closer to Latin Europe than Celtic Europe, particularly since no Celtic language is even spoken here anymore. Ronline ✉ 06:14, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

It is narrow to define heritage as being something to do only with language. If you ask the people there, listen to their music, their traditional stories, it becomes evident how Celtic they are.(87.126.19.184 09:39, 17 February 2006 (UTC))

I agree that the situation is often more complex than just language. However, are cultural customs in Galicia and Asturias really that different from those of Spain? And closer to, say, Ireland? I've always seen the Galicians as a nation that are separate yet closely-related to the Spanish nation (just like Catalans are). However, I don't know too much about the case, I concede. I would love to find out more. Perhaps the article should explain this situation in more depth (i.e. "Galicia and Asturias are sometimes seen as part of Celtic Europe, due to common culture and heritage, even though no Celtic language is spoken in this area" or something like that). By the way, was a Celtic language ever spoken in these areas? If so, was this some proto-Celtic or had the branches already diverged by then? Thanks, Ronline ✉ 06:19, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

• Thanks fpr the comments Ronline, will put in the edits. (Stpaul 10:32, 20 February 2006 (UTC))

Friuli

In the map, Friuli is shown as a part of "Celtic Europe" but neither in the text nor in the articles Modern Celts and Celtic nations there exists a reference. Can someone tell why??? Behemoth 08:04, 03 March 2006 (UTC)

Oooopss! Sorry, but the trend is still not interpretable on grounds that the "Celticity" of even a region like Galicia is still deemed controversial...

Interesting, there is no paticular region for its exclusion from Celtic Nations; if there are verifiable sources showing that it makes some sort of claim to celtic heritage, it should be included there. Robdurbar 09:01, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Northern Ireland

Why is Northern Ireland excluded?

Because the map's wrong! Robdurbar 09:02, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Merge

It seems that this and the Celtic nations article are a bit redunant. By merging them, we can iron out the contradictions between the two Robdurbar 09:02, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Responses all moved to Talk:Celtic nations#Celtic Europe for consistency. Please direct further comments there

The Map

The map includes regions that are not mentioned in the text; Devon and Anjou. When one takes a look at the complementary map http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:CelGerLatSla_europe.PNG it is obvious that the issue is much more contestable. For example, Cantabria is shown as a part of "Basque Europe"! 12:51, 3 March 2006 (UTC)