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Latest comment: 1 year ago1 comment1 person in discussion
I suggest that we change the name from "Battle of Kyiv" to "Battle for Kyiv". The reasoning behind this change, is due to the nature of the battle. For Russia the objective of the battle was to capture Kyiv whereas for the Ukrainians, it was to defend and keep control of the capital. Therefore it was a battle 'for' the control of the capital.
When 'of' is used it signifies merely the location of a battle. One example is the Battle of Agincourt, named so, because the battle took place at the village of Agincourt. In this case it's not only a battle at Kyiv, it's a battle for Kyiv.
Therefore, to be precise in our language I suggest we change the name to "Battle for Kyiv". Danicus Politicus (talk) 14:53, 20 January 2023 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 1 month ago6 comments5 people in discussion
Speaking on Saturday, Putin said that Ukraine was responsible for sabotaging the negotiations. “After we pulled our troops away from Kiev – as we had promised to do – the Kiev authorities … tossed [their commitments] into the dustbin of history,” he said. “They abandoned everything.”https://archive.is/Gnple is this real ? Thisexistswelp (talk) 02:22, 19 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
Yes, at least the Istanbul accords/negotiations should get mentioned.
Kyiv authorities do not confirm that any promises took place and Ukrainian forces were chasing and striking fleeing Russian forces. Those negotiations should be mentioned as "terms that were rejected by Kyiv".
Bro, ruscist claims about mythic "promises" are state-level cringe. There is no such thing as "promises" in politics, there are international agreements for that. 176.113.167.189 (talk) 10:00, 17 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
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