Talk:Backlash (2004)

Attendance

There is no way there was only 13,000 at Backlash. The place was sold out, and Rexalls capacity is in the 16,000 region. I'm going to find a source and change it. This looks like more attempts to make Canada look inferior to the U.S. again. Killswitch Engage (talk) 18:15, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

If you can find one, go right ahead. But, until then, it will remain 13,000. –Cheers, LAX 19:39, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

What I'm going to do is see if I can't track down a video of the event, where you hear J.R. clearly say, "over 18,000 on hand for Backlash. Thats an exaggeration, because Rexall only holds like 16,000 people. Can I use a wiki page as a reference for a capacity? I know that wrestling is set up similar to hockey, and the arena holds 16,000 for ice hockey. Mind giving me a hand on that? Thanks. Killswitch Engage (talk · contribs)

You may not use another Wikipedia page as a source, and you may only use a video if they are not illegally hosting WWE content (meaning YouTube is out of the question). –Cheers, LAX 19:46, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

So I could rip the footage from a DVD and send it to someone as proof? Killswitch Engage (talk) 19:50, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Or just cite the DVD using Template:Cite DVD-notes. –Cheers, LAX 19:52, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Where do I put it on the page?Killswitch Engage (talk) 05:16, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

In the Infobox, the only place where the attendance is mentioned. –Cheers, LAX 11:34, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

What the fuck? I put it in the infobox just like you said? Whats your problem now?Killswitch Engage (talk) 04:51, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

It was messed up. [1] –Cheers, LAX 08:48, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Alright then, you show me how to put it in.Killswitch Engage (talk) 06:38, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

pre-GA review

Throughout the entire article make sure that the dates are Wiki-linked. It's mostly a problem in the aftermath.

Lead, Background, Pictures

1. I don't see anything wrong with these sections.

Event

1. Try to expand on the matches. They all seem to be a little bit too short.
2. Combine the first, second, and third paragraphs.

   –LAX 01:48, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

3. And the fourth and fifth.

   –LAX 01:48, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

4. And the sixth and seventh.

   –LAX 01:48, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

5. Benjamie - self explanatory

   –LAX 01:48, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

6. The match saw Garrison Cade interfere - try to stay away from phrases such as "The match saw"

   Why? –LAX 01:48, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

   Because a match can't see something. You can say, during the duration of the match iMatthew 2008 01:56, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

7. The match came about - huh?

   –LAX 15:52, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

8. Can we find a better word that "catapulted"

   Zenlax ^{T C S} 20:17, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

9. Wiki-link "enziguiri kick"

   Zenlax ^{T C S} 20:13, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

10. The match that followed was for the WWE Women's Championship match I guess you can remove the work "match"

    Zenlax ^{T C S} 20:13, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

11. The match was controlled by both Victoria and Lita. how is the match controlled by both competitors?

    Zenlax ^{T C S} 20:15, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

12. Again, stay away from the phrase "One spot in the match saw"

    Why? –LAX 01:48, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

13. I believe "lay" should be "lye"

    Zenlax ^{T C S} 20:19, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

14. One spot in the match saw again in the last paragraph (It comes up twice), then Another included,

    Again, why? –LAX 01:48, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Aftermath

1. Wiki-link or explain "Double champion"

   I think the term "Double champion" is explained, as it informs that Benoit retained the title and won the World Tag team title. Zenlax ^{T C S} 19:55, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

   I didn't know what you meant until now. It isn't really explained. iMatthew 2008 20:20, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

2. Prior to Raw that night, Bischoff informed Triple H that the following week on Raw, he would have a title match against Benoit what was the result of this match?

   I don't quite follow. Zenlax ^{T C S} 19:58, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

   You're telling me that Triple H would have a title match against Benoit the following week. What happened in that match, and who won? iMatthew 2008 20:20, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

   I saw that match, Chris Benoit won. DoorLearn (talk) 15:05, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

   Fixed. –LAX 15:33, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

3. "not a participant in the battle" changed "battle" to "match"

   Zenlax ^{T C S} 19:57, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

4. to know of he was scheduled i assume that "of" should be "if"

   Zenlax ^{T C S} 20:07, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

5. Bischoff assured Michaels, but was jumped from behind by Triple H, after Michaels attacked Triple H outside the arena's parking lot it's not clear who Triple H jumped...and use another word instead of "jumped"

   Zenlax ^{T C S} 20:07, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

6. RAW to Raw.... right?

   –LAX 01:48, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

7. Superstars does not need to have a capital "S"

   Zenlax ^{T C S} 19:56, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

8. 'question', if those are supposed to be quotation marks, then use "" not
9. I'm confused. You mention that Kane received a title match in both paragraphs. I believe it should only be mentioned in the first paragraph. Remove it from the paragraph about Hardy/Lita. Also expand the Hardy/Lita section. How did the feud result?
10. "problem solver" the quotation marks should not be wiki-linked.

    Please see Trish Stratus' article as the example is written there. Zenlax ^{T C S} 20:00, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

11. Wiki-link "Steel Cage match"

    Zenlax ^{T C S} 20:05, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

12. 'During a tag team match between Jericho and Shelton Benjamin, the tag match between Jericho and Shelton, does not make sense. The tag match between Jericho and Shelton vs. Batista and Ortan.

    Zenlax ^{T C S} 20:10, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

13. Again, stay away from this phrase "in which it saw him"

    Zenlax ^{T C S} 20:05, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Results

1. Numbers in parentheses indicate the length of the match. -- should be small text
2. The match notes all need to be sourced.

Let me know when you are done. iMatthew 2008 01:30, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Additional

I believe 411mania was proven not to be a reliable source, so I'd say all of those references need to be replaced. And change the publishers from "WWE" to "World Wrestling Entertainment" -- iMatthew _T.C. 11:16, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

It's reliable enough for GAs, but not FAs. –LAX 03:00, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Backlash (2004)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

GA Review by S_RX

Lead

• Great wording, though I suggest adding a paragraph about the aftermath/background.

Background

• Why is sharpshooter not capitalized in the lead and it is in the BG? Remain consistent.
  •  Done. –LAX 04:24, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
• A third feud should be outlined to get a more overview background of the event.
  • Is that really necessary? There really weren't any other main feuds, nor any back-story to them. –LAX 04:24, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
    • Yes, I was told during one on my GA Reviews by an outside WP:PW member that 3 feuds should be outlined. For No Way Out (2004), I had trouble outlining the Mysterio/Guerrero feud, but I did the best I could for it. It doesn't matter if its not a main feud, an undercard match is fine to outline.S_RX 11:42, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
      •  Done. –LAX 14:18, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Event

• Before the event went live on pay-per-view, Val Venis defeated Matt Hardy in a match taped for Sunday Night HEAT. - per WP:PW/MOS, HEAT should follow the same rule as iMPACT, and be in regular font format.
  •  Done. –LAX 04:24, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
• The third match of the event was Chris Jericho versus Christian and Trish Stratus in a Handicap match, in which Jericho defeated both Christian and Stratus. - Why is the result shown before hand, while other's aren't in that format.
  •  Done. –LAX 04:24, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
• The match ended when Victoria pinned Lita after an Inside Cradle after Lita got a near fall on Victoria. - the last part "after Lita got a near..." is redundant and not relevant in that sentence.
  •  Done. –LAX 04:24, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
• Cactus continued, as he poured gasoline on the bat and tried to light it on fire. - continued what?
  •  Done. –LAX 04:24, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
• Assaults by both men took effect, until Orton managed to pin Cactus after an RKO on a barbed wire baseball bat - the first part of the sentence doesn't flow with the rest of it, consider revising.
  •  Done. –LAX 04:24, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
• Edge, however, reversed assaults by Kane, who he then attempted to spear. - attempted "to spear"? remove "to" and reword it into saying that he performed a spear.
  • I have reword the proceeding sentence, which explains that Kane dodged the spear, causing Edge to spear the referee instead. –LAX 04:24, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
    • That works fine.S_RX 11:42, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Aftermath

• Written well, I saw no flaws other than jargon, but not to worry for now.

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

1. Is it reasonably well written?

   A. Prose quality:

   Per comments above.

   B. MoS compliance:

2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?

   A. References to sources:

   B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:

   C. No original research:

3. Is it broad in its coverage?

   A. Major aspects:

   B. Focused:

4. Is it neutral?

   Fair representation without bias:

5. Is it stable?

   No edit wars, etc:

6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?

   A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:

   B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:

7. Overall:

   Pass or Fail:

   Written very good; though a couple of prose issues, until they are addressed, the article is  On hold for the time being, good luck in improving the article.--S_RX 03:28, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Ok great work. Pass--S_RX 15:19, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

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Intercontinental Championship Match

Match was announced and billed as No Holds Barred, Falls Count Anywhere Match. Article reads "Hardcore Match" Small Technicality, wanted to mention before possibly editingLbkid1700 (talk) 23:24, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

So what? That's exactly what a "hardcore match" is. It even says so on the official WWE website. Don't change it. Nickag989^talk 18:35, 13 June 2018 (UTC)