User:Merovingian/archive
Hello Merovingian, welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you have a lot of fun here. There are lots of resources around to help guide you. be sure to check out:
If you want add any images check out:
If you need any help try:
- Wikipedia:Help
- Village pump
- Or ask me at my talk page User_talk:Theresa knott
Don't be afraid of making the odd mistake, there are any number of others eagerly waiting for a chance to correct it! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Theresa knott (talk • contribs)
- LOL, Thanks! --Mer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Merovingian (talk • contribs)
Hi, Merovingian, I think you may have fallen afoul of Wikipedia's rather strict copyright policy with your recent photo uploads. A quick Google search shows that the images likely came from http://www.premieretalk.com/coast2coast_contents.html, which states, "Copyright (c) 2003. All rights reserved. Reproduction in whole or in part in any form or medium without express written permission of Premiere Radio Networks, Inc. is prohibited." Unless you have that permission, these images will probably have to be deleted. I direct you to Wikipedia:Boilerplate request for permission. Cheers, Cyan 04:21, 15 Nov 2003 (UTC)
- Cy,
- I am aware of Wiki's copyright standards; I took the pics from the CTC Official Site. I will check later. I've killed the pictures anyway. --Mer —Preceding unsigned comment added by Merovingian (talk • contribs)
friendly reminder...
[edit]this is just a friendly reminder to use the comments field explicitly when editing. What I mean is, if you remove Bob Gibson, then have your comment be -Bob Gibson. It makes life much easier for others when specifics can be seen while viewing page history. thanks! Kingturtle 17:56, 15 Nov 2003 (UTC)
Howdy. I don't quite know where we are on deciding the copyright/fair-use status of the two images you uploaded (Noory2.jpg and Art4bio.jpg) - I make a personal point of not involving myself with such jailhouse-lawyerism. If you're entirely done with them (or in future, with any other image) simply unlinking them from articles isn't quite enough to make them dissapear from the database. Although I expect one day a developer will run an SQL query and recover a list of such orphaned images, they don't seem to do so terribly often. In the meantime, the best thing to do is to list the images in the Images awaiting deletion section of Wikipedia:Images for deletion. That way (when image deletion is working again) those images can be zapped without futher ado. Please don't think I'm pressuring you to do so - I don't know (and really don't care, frankly) whether using these particular images is okay. Thanks, oh, and a belated welcome to Wikipedia too. -- Finlay McWalter 20:35, 15 Nov 2003 (UTC)
Hi there. Good work copyediting those Polish herbs. Did you know that by clicking "show preview" rather than "save page", you can see all those little edits one at a time, but then submit them all together the end, and the whole lot only needs one "Summary" comment, and shows as one change in the page history? Onebyone 01:10, 28 Nov 2003 (UTC)
- I use "preview" sometimes, but I didn't know you could do that! Thanks,
Merovingian 01:14, 28 Nov 2003 (UTC)
Please don't succumb to NPOV madness by removing words like tasty. Tasty is not a point of view it is a sensation. Mintguy
- It was stupid, thanks for reality. --Merovingian 09:56, Dec 6, 2003 (UTC)
Thanks for the tip; I'll try to force myself to use it. - Litefantastic 15:04, 10 Dec 2003 (UTC)
Don't remove unwritten links as it is then difficult to put them back once the article has been written. In the case of languages the standard is actually Blah language rather than just Blah. There could also be transliteration problems. Secretlondon 14:59, Dec 16, 2003 (UTC)
Those anatomy articles were an easy write ("softies" if you'll excuse a horrible, horrible pun)- I'm surprised no one got them already. --Raul654 07:48, 22 Dec 2003 (UTC)
From talk page of Wikipedia:Experimental Main Page:
- Very Nice, but where is the Hindu calendar listing? --Merovingian 05:39, Dec 22, 2003 (UTC)
- If you know today's day in Hindu or other calendars, please add it! ilya 22:33, 22 Dec 2003 (UTC)
Hello. just to infom you that i replied to your question on my talk page, which I post here as well: :Hello! So happy to hear that you like my lessons, thanks! The first lesson was posted on 24th December 2003. with Best Wishes for Peace Profound, Optim 17:09, 2 Jan 2004 (UTC)
- again, thanks for your kind words, have a happy 2004:) Optim 17:14, 2 Jan 2004 (UTC)
Just a quick note that user:Matty j has transferred wikimoney from your account for creating Glenn Beck. --snoyes 05:09, 4 Jan 2004 (UTC)
Mr Wetherell, I am most glad that you approve of the National Geographic Bee page. -- Lord Emsworth 02:46, Jan 12, 2004 (UTC)
- I must thank you for your compliment. -- Emsworth
Regarding your WikiMoney bounty on the Glenn Beck Program: there is already an article on Glenn Beck that covers his program very well so I think you should just create a redirect from The Glenn Beck Program and remove your bounty. Kent Wang 01:19, 17 Jan 2004 (UTC)
Hey, forgive me for overlooking your userpage edits, but I thought I'd point out MediaWiki's nifty automatic namespace suppression trick - instead of saying [[User:Merovingian|Merovingian]](i.e. Merovingian) just say [[User:Merovingian|]] (i.e. Merovingian) which should look the same, and with less typing on your part. Cool, huh? -- Finlay McWalter 23:20, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC)
USS Tulibee
[edit]That's a disambiguation page, not a stub. A 'stub' implies that there is more information to be added, which there really is not, except maybe a link to the fish the provided the submarines name. A 'disambigation' page is for situations where two or more articles potentially have the same title, which is the situation that occurs here. Elde 08:26, 28 Jan 2004 (UTC)
- Sorry about putting the message on your user page vice your talk page, I pulled the 'edit the page' trigger a bit too fast... You have to look careful there are stubs and disambigs missing their respective messages, and the two types can resemble each other confusingly. Elde 20:10, 28 Jan 2004 (UTC)
Number pages
[edit]Hi,
I would like you to reconsider your vote on the inclusion of articles about numbers on Wikipedia. I am not opposed to number articles per se, but I am opposed to the trivial cultural properties which have been heaped upon many of these articles.
My rationale is that numbers are such a fundamental part of human culture, an article that lists all these associations would have proportions probably larger than all of Wikipedia taken together. To give you an example, Google returns 209,000,000 hits for the number 100 alone.
Please take a look at 1 (number)#Other fields. This is the type of lists I am referring to. Right now the article arbitrarily lists a few things where the number one has some significance: a DVD region, a personality test, a slang term (Wikipedia is not a dictionary), American currency, a single dial code, several roads ...
If you think this information is valuable I am probably wasting my time. But I hope that after looking at several of these pages you will agree that these kind of lists make a joke of Wikipedia. They will always be arbitrary, they will always be in violation of the rules of Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not (list repository, dictionary), and they will seriously damage our reputation.
If you see a compromise option which is not currently included in the poll, please add it. But please do not give these triva lists your rubber stamp of approval.—Eloquence 11:15, Feb 22, 2004 (UTC)
Hey Ryan - I just wanted to let you know that even though you are a quiet user and tend to stay out of fights, your contributions around here do not go unnoticed. Keep up the good work. ⊟Raul654 03:58, Feb 27, 2004 (UTC)
- Just to let you know - you are one of two people whom I was considering nominating for adminship (ever since you edited my anatomy articles back in December). I offered to the other person (he's been here a LONG time), but he declined for the time being. I was going to wait to ask you until you had been here for five months. ⊟Raul654 04:41, Feb 27, 2004 (UTC)
Any particular reason you moved Bob Hayes to Robert Lee Hayes? Because "Bob Hayes" is far more well known. RadicalBender 05:08, 27 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Hey Ryan, Thanks for your message message. Thats pretty neat that you about the same age, I'm 16 and that we have the same name :) well hope to talk to you again some time. theyapps 04:46, Feb 28, 2004 (UTC)
RYAN
[edit]i dont think ur like this- but r u willing to cheat? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.216.161.251 (talk • contribs)
- ok, like on the tests-do u know a way to cheat out the site-almost like hacking, and get to the answers first? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.216.161.251 (talk • contribs)
- alrighty - thanx! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.216.161.251 (talk • contribs)
- just go along w/ it! dont talk about that stuff on the school pages! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.216.161.251 (talk • contribs)
- i mean, if u talk about tests- with the suspision that would be rising, everyone would get the ultimate picture!dont say anything about the school test- im not gettin in trouble! go w. the IQ tests —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.216.161.251 (talk • contribs)
- just go along w/ it! dont talk about that stuff on the school pages! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.216.161.251 (talk • contribs)
- alrighty - thanx! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.216.161.251 (talk • contribs)
Ryan - I have nominated you for adminship. ⊟Raul654 20:23, Mar 9, 2004 (UTC)
- PS - voting so far is 8 to 0. Looks like you are a shoe in. Congradulations. ⊟Raul654 03:17, Mar 10, 2004 (UTC)
Hi
Yes, I agree, I think it should. I've put the question at Wikipedia_talk:Recentchanges. Would you like to comment? Warofdreams 18:49, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Hi, for names like USS Topeka, we italicize the name only; the "USS" part is a ship prefix and not actually part of the name, so it's not to be italicized. (Most places in WP have been fixed, but a lot of people don't understand the rule, and you'll see many mistaken articles.) Stan 20:24, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Hello!
After making a link from your article to the article on the metric system (which was titled under the official international name instead of "metric" so and so) I read the metric system artcile and noticed that there was already another article on the US units: U.S. customary units. AlainV 01:30, 2004 Mar 14 (UTC)
Sysop
[edit]Congratulations! You are now an administrator. You should read the relevant policies and other pages linked to from the administrators' reading list before carrying out tasks like deletion, protection, banning users, and editing protected pages such as the Main Page. Most of what you do is easily reversible by other sysops, apart from page history merges and image deletion, so please be especially careful with those. Good luck. Angela. 23:29, Mar 16, 2004 (UTC)
(Edit Conflict with Angela) I believe you are now officially a sysop. Congradulations. If you have any questions, just drop me a line. ⊟Raul654 23:30, Mar 16, 2004 (UTC)
Congrats from me too. Dori | Talk 14:19, Mar 17, 2004 (UTC)
... and congrats from me as well :-) Elf-friend 19:08, 17 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Rishartha/Aenea666
[edit]You're quite welcome! Also, I should thank you for your support of my slightly controversial nomination. A belated congratulations on your own adminship; I seem to have missed the vote, which I regret (I've only now begun to take part in these things). You've done great work, and I would have supported. For what it's worth. :) -- Hadal 07:36, 18 Mar 2004 (UTC)
I noticed the image you added to Counterfeit. It's a little vague as to where the building is and when the photo was taken. TimothyPilgrim 13:54, Mar 18, 2004 (UTC)
How bizarre. Look at recent changes - it appears we created the same page so simultaneously that the software only recorded one edit but saw both. Isomorphic 05:25, 19 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- LOL. Twice in two days. I think I have an echo.. echo... echo..... :-) Isomorphic 04:13, 20 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Re:Yvan Eht Nioj
[edit]Actually, I think that was an obscure Simpsons reference. :) RadicalBender 07:16, 20 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- Or not so obscure ;) ⊟Raul654 11:30, Mar 20, 2004 (UTC)
Your reversion on The Rest of the Story
[edit]Please see Talk:The Rest of the Story -- Nunh-huh 05:27, 24 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Sysopness
[edit]Actually, I'm the youngest sysop: 13 years :). ugen64 22:51, Mar 24, 2004 (UTC)
- Great. Thanks for making me feel so old! ⊟Raul654 22:56, Mar 24, 2004 (UTC)
- This is pretty entertaining. I'm 15 and a sysop also. I wonder who else? --Alex S 15:02, 31 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- Let's make a poll somewhere... =) --Merovingian ↕ Talk 15:15, Mar 31, 2004 (UTC)
- I have created m:Wikipedians by age ⊟Raul654 17:55, Mar 31, 2004 (UTC)
- Let's make a poll somewhere... =) --Merovingian ↕ Talk 15:15, Mar 31, 2004 (UTC)
- This is pretty entertaining. I'm 15 and a sysop also. I wonder who else? --Alex S 15:02, 31 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Air
[edit]Suggestion: The latin root "aero" means "air". I´m not sure if "aero" comes from old greek. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.217.90.78 (talk • contribs)
Thanks for the proposed nomination
[edit]I am honored that you considered me worthy, and appreciate your approaching the issue via a Talk/Poll, since I haven't really been here that long (about 5 weeks), even tho' I have spent at laest 150 hrs here, and will probably hit 1500 edits in the next day or two. I am currently unemployed, so I've been able to spend at least 6-8 hrs per day on Wikipedia. This will change on April 12, when my latest contract job starts (for 3 months). I don't know that I'd be doing many admin-ish things, even if granted, at least for now, but having that status would probably put more weight behind my comments on occasion, so that could be cool. Since my edits are virtually never challenged, I thot I might get nominated at some point, but never guessed it would be so soon. I have added a link on my talk page of some of my primary contribs, if people are curious--I'd been meaning to do it, but your nomination gave it a higher priority. However this goes, I expect to keep contributing--I love words, English, and information. Niteowlneils 18:51, 2 Apr 2004 (UTC)
re: Wik/Jor/..., it wasn't clear to me whether you'd bowed out of the discussion, or whether you'd additionally withdrawn your votes. So I left your votes up - please delete them if I got it wrong. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MyRedDice (talk • contribs)
Wow, thanks for the nomination. I'm not entirely convinced that I want or need adminship just yet though. I'm pretty happy beavering away as I am, and to be honest I haven't made that many substantial contributions. Naturally of course, I'll let it play out a bit first before I properly make my mind up, to see what other people think. Thanks again. - Lee (talk) 17:42, 15 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Hey Merovingian. I notice you deleted the Assoc. Inclusionists page and related announcement. I wonder, was this a change of mind or on advice? Also, did you have a chance to read my comment on its discuss page? nsh 00:24, Apr 16, 2004 (UTC) talk
- I did read your comments; thank you so much for your input. I deleted the AIW here because it was a little polarizing. I haven't changed my policy, and I think I may reopen the AIW on the meta. --Merovingian ↕ Talk 00:34, Apr 16, 2004 (UTC)
- Ah, It's reassuring that I made at least some sense. I think that the AIW could be useful and you're right, meta might be more appropiate. Anyhow, fare well and good fortune. (So many great people here, it's breathtaking)
--nsh 00:46, Apr 16, 2004 (UTC) talk
- Thanks; I'll move it tomorrow. --Merovingian ↕ Talk 00:48, Apr 16, 2004 (UTC)
Message for you at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:John_Kerry#Fingernail_Scrape —Preceding unsigned comment added by Get-back-world-respect (talk • contribs)
Thanks for the welcome message. You are the first fellow Wikipedian to say hello. --mporch 07:22, 29 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Hi Merovingian-
Thanks for the kind words! --Ezra 13:49, 2004 Apr 29 (UTC)
hi Merovingian,
Thanks for the welcome. What are your interests? With that name do I find you equally 6th-century but more Gaulish than me? I shall be away after the ned of this week so if yuo respond, soon please. User: Pachiaammos 07:40 May 10
admin
[edit]Merovingian, I have re-activated your adminship. Now get to work :) Kingturtle 03:08, 14 May 2004 (UTC)
External link
[edit]According to the manual of style (Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#External_links), the 'l' should be lower case. [1] Maximus Rex 22:42, 15 May 2004 (UTC)
MRC Thérèse-de-Blainville
[edit]Hello! I know how to edit any article but I am not sure how to edit a box like the one you are using for the Quebec MRCs. Anyway, what I am getting to is that you are using a misprint or typo error version of MRC Thérèse-de-Blainville: You are using Balinville instead of Blainville. By doing a Google search on the misprint I noted that two news sites were using it so I concluded that is were you (or somebody else up the line) picked it up. If you do a Google with the correct "Blainville" you will find pages about that particular MRC, as proof that I have not dreamt it up. It would be difficult to do so much dreaming since I go through that particular MRC every time I go back to Montreal using the North shore road. AlainV 00:13, 2004 May 16 (UTC)
Hi Merovingian,
thanks for the warm welcome! Nice to hear that my actions have been useful thus far. At least I did not mess up anything ;-) I hope to be able to contribute some more. I only joined two days ago. Still getting used to everything. But I am quite impressed with the volume of constructive activity in Wikipedia. Ten minutes after I created my first article, some other guy jumped on it and improved it. Great!
cheers
- netlad
Island Countries
[edit]So This is, in fact, not a 'list of island countries', but a list of countrie that are on one or more islands, but not spread across islands that they do not completly control? Isn't that a little strange? By any normal definition UK and Ireland are island coutries - are you suggesting that they would be on this list if the UK gave NI back to Ireland? Plus, when was Java EVER a country? Mark Richards 22:40, 18 May 2004 (UTC)
Photos
[edit]Hi: All photos are public and well-known and have been circulating for fifty years. IZAK 04:34, 19 May 2004 (UTC)
- Hi again: the picture of "Dead Himmler" was taken by Allied soldiers in 1945, it has been in the public domain for a long time, it is a well-known photo to war historians and is often used, see for example:
http://www.scrapbookpages.com/BergenBelsen/BergenBelsen06.html and http://www.thirdreich.boinaslava.net/imena/himmler.htm or see them also at: http://images.google.com/images?q=Dead Himmler&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
I was very relieved when I scrolled down the list, and my university was not on the list. :) Fuzheado 08:35, 19 May 2004 (UTC)
Hi Merovingian, why do you feel that the 22 in Okaw Valley Council needs twenty-two in brackets after it? Just wondering -- Ams80 22:28, 20 May 2004 (UTC)
Thanks for the nomination
[edit]Seems to be going well. I'm kinda amused to be called a deletionist (tho' I think I know why; 9/11 votes, and intolerence of separate articles for incremental product releases and minor and/or one-time fictional chars and objects), since most of my main contributions have been to save articles from VfD, and, the past couple weeks I've switched to New Pages patrol, where I mostly format needy articles to keep them from getting tagged msg:delete or subst:vfd. Niteowlneils 16:49, 30 May 2004 (UTC)
- You're very welcome, Neil. --Merovingian ↕ T@Lk 17:16, May 30, 2004 (UTC)
Nice...
[edit]Another 'kid' on wikipedia. Hi, I'm 13 years old. And I'd like to place a special order for an obscure letter, please. Ilyanep (Talk) 02:37, 25 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Francisco Ortiz Franco
[edit]D'you really think he needs a disambiguation link to Francisco Franco? The similarity between the names is pretty superficial; I can't imagine anyone looking for El Caudillo ending up there. –Hajor 14:07, 28 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Cool. See you around. –Hajor
William Moody
[edit]I turned this into a real article right before you deleted it. Think that it's worthy of a restore? Dale Arnett 05:45, 30 Jun 2004 (UTC)
F 9/11
[edit]I removed your caution because the center tags were disrupting the page flow - can you re-add it in a way that doesn't make the page look bad? Is it a standard wiki tag that is designed to do that? Michael A. 03:37, 5 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Blahblah
[edit]Just wanted to say that I love your Xiaopo quote. You achievements at your age are really admirable. You seem terribly intelligent. Haha, and I love your crack about the Enterprise-D on your user page. blankfaze | •• | •• 17:49, 6 Jul 2004 (UTC)
To Anacreon in Heaven
[edit]Why did you speedy delete this article? Why did you put it on Bad joke,...? These appear to be the correct lyrics to the song. Rmhermen 13:01, Jul 7, 2004 (UTC)
Korean proverbs
[edit]Can you please explain what the proverbs refer to? I am especially having trouble understanding the one about the Hangul letter and the sickle. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.237.35.242 (talk • contribs)
Barnstar
[edit]Hi! Thankyou for the barnstar :-) However, don't forget User:Dysprosia and User:Seth Ilys who have both done invaluable work preparing the lists and correcting articles :-) —Lady Lysiŋe Ikiŋsile | Talk 00:49, 2004 Jul 9 (UTC)
It is worth noting that I don't have any puppets. You would do well to note the lack of evidence to this effect; not one shred of evidence has been raised to show that I do have such puppets. You should really feel ashamed that you have expressed a desire for punishment of me, in regards to the nomination of Plato -- I know, and you know, that you posess not one ounce of evidence to support the idea that I am the same as either IndigoGenius or Plato. Stop jumping on the bandwagon, its not productive. Lirath Q. Pynnor
- Of course, but there is no real harm in the nomination -- it is even arguably justified; since the cabal is demanding "action" against tho whose make "frivolous" nominations, I would rather the Wikipedia deal with this question sooner than later -- if you people can't stand the occasional "inappropriate" nomination, you need to make a rule about what is appropriate...rather than trying to bully and threaten people into compliance. Regardless, Indigo Genius has had earlier accounts -- his edits at that account do not represent his total number of edits; he has been around for over a year, which is longer than most new sysops. The primary reason Indigo and Plato are so strongly opposed, is not that they are vandals, but that they hold minority viewpoints which are not being given proper NPOV treatment by the majority. Lirath Q. Pynnor
Category sort tags
[edit]Hi,
I noticed that when you created a couple of biographical pages, you omitted the category sort tags (to sort by surname).
For instance for Albert Hunt the category was given as
[[Category:Inventors]] but should be
[[Category:Inventors|Hunt, Albert]]
Same for Angelo Secchi.
-- Curps 01:59, 15 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Category removal
[edit]Please explain your category removal on Motorola 6800. I didn't add it without thinking about it first, and it's thoroughly irritating that you reverted my edit. Stan 16:32, 15 Jul 2004 (UTC)
I'm sure Indigo would appreciate that, I would also like my edits transferred. However, without the cabal's permission, there is no means of doing that. Lirath Q. Pynnor
- There is a cabal; you might enjoy repeating silly catch-phrases, but that won't change anything. This site is hierarchical; there are haves and have-nots -- people with power, and those without. As someone who has no power, I assure you that those of us without are persecuted by those who have a great deal of power. Lirath Q. Pynnor
- Did we ever claim that every sysops are out to get us? Every sysop is not in the cabal; but, there is a cabal. Lirath Q. Pynnor
- There are admins who abuse their authority. There are admins who are out to get regular users. To suggest otherwise is rather absurd. Lirath Q. Pynnor
- Most admins form what is known as the "silent majority"; they have no wish to be blacklisted themselves, so they keep quiet and hope for the best. Of the vocal and "active" admins -- the majority should be desysoped. Lirath Q. Pynnor
- There are admins who abuse their authority. There are admins who are out to get regular users. To suggest otherwise is rather absurd. Lirath Q. Pynnor
- Did we ever claim that every sysops are out to get us? Every sysop is not in the cabal; but, there is a cabal. Lirath Q. Pynnor
Wars series boxes
[edit]Hi, I was just wondering why you added series boxes to some articles about wars...those are usually used for people, like monarchs, who have a clear succession with a definite predecessor and successor. Wars aren't like that and for something like the Peloponnesian War it is unrelated to the preceding and following wars. There are other things wrong with it as it stands, as it gives the wrong dates for the war, and there were plenty of other wars before and after it other than the two you listed. That can be fixed, but in general I don't understand how a table like that could be useful...was this discussed somewhere that I could read? Otherwise I think it might be best if they are removed. Adam Bishop 22:26, 19 Jul 2004 (UTC)
- Hmm, perhaps we should start a discussion on the List of wars talk page? (Or, dare I say it, a poll? :)) Adam Bishop 23:05, 19 Jul 2004 (UTC)
A Vindication of the Rights of Woman
[edit]I do not believe this page is a stub, as there is not much that could be added to the page, and yet you made it a stub.
I ask that you retract it, as I am at work and do not want to log in from here, and I'll forget before I get home. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.181.42.20 (talk • contribs)
Hi. I think adding Lir's nomination again is a waste of time, as he is most unlikely to pass, but that's not my problem. However, in doing so you removed Stormies nomination, which is NOT acceptable ([2]). Be more careful next time -- Chris 73 | Talk 10:57, 30 Jul 2004 (UTC)